Top of the rack is about level with top of seat and each rack has a kick up in the rear There are places to attach bungee cords or mounting straps so you no longer have to scratch your bikeÆs fender as you secure your cargo Mounting hardware included Made in the U.S.A. Does not work with nor require Harley-Davidson mounting kit. If aftermarket seat is not Saddlemen or Lucky Daves step ups, then look carefully at the measurements of the opening to ensure the rack will fit around your bikeÆs seat.. RACK WRAP AROUND BLK